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I saw that these were to of the most popular tool. Anyone familiar with both and care to comment on pros and cons?  Thanks, Michael

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Hi Michael,

 

first a disclaimer: since I am working for Rapid-I (the creator of the software RapidMiner) I might be a bit biased. However, I try to identify some different aspects, pros, and cons as neutral as possible ;-)

 

R Pros:

- it's a programming language: you can do what you want

- number of algorithms: many analysis and data transformation schemes already exist

- integration and expandability: embedding an R script into own programs is pretty easy, writing extensions as well since you already know the language then

- widely used in academia and in education of statisticians: huge user base

- the no 1 option when it comes to pure statistics and data is not too large

 

R Cons:

- it's a programming language: you have to write / adapt source code for every single step

- scalability often is an issue: if you have large sets of data, you will easily get into trouble (since R is licensed under GPL and IP rights are hold by thousands of people I highly double that a 100% legal way for an open-core license model can be used here so that a company can jump in and help you out here)

- hardly any native support for enterprise usage / deployment: no process definitions, no scheduling, no integration, no...

- nothing for web-based applications: harder deployment etc.

 

RapidMiner Pros:

- gray-box programming: you can program your analysis but without writing source code (and you still have access to all details and are able to change them)

- processes: each program / analysis script is a parametrized process which can be re-used and - more important - connected or embedded into business processes

- scalability: depending on the used algorithms, RapidMiner can use much more data. By using the server version (RapidAnalytics), this can even be improved and the Enterprise Edition of RapidMiner offer methods for in-database-mining

- cluster support: multiple servers can be used as computation cluster

- business analytics: RM is much stronger when it comes to analytical ETL, data and text mining, and - especially with the Enterprise Edition of the server RapidAnalytics - predictive reporting and dashboards

- integration and expandability: easy integration of processes as web services (via RapidAnalytics), RM integrates Weka, R (best of both worlds), and offers options for additional extensions with scripts if something is missing

 

RapidMiner Cons:

- probably a smaller user base than R

- the integration between RapidMiner and R is not (yet!) as perfect as it should be

- less statistical methods than R but more methods derived from machine learning / data mining

- "There is an operator for that" is an often heard answer by RapidMiner-People. However, many operators (the basic building blocks of analysis processes) mean higher complexity

- the graphical user interface is really powerful but this also adds to complexity

 

This is certainly not a complete list or overview and there are many more aspects than those I have discussed above. And which tool is more appropriate certainly depends on your background and requirement. However, I still hope that it helps.

 

The good thing is: both are open source and can be tested, and due to the open source nature you can also have the best of both worlds with a single solution (RapidMiner + R Extension). So just give them a try and test them yourself!

 

All the best,

Ingo

 

 

 

I can only speak to R.

 

Pros

 - Thousands of add-on community generated packages that cover a wide range of applications

 - Large community support base

 - Reproducibility for peer review

 - Documentation is well constructed

 - No seat licenses required

 

Cons

 - Large data sets can be difficult

 - need to be comfortable with a command line interface

 - programming skills a plus (but not required)

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